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nbc/marist, you put out data this morning, close in several states but still in ohio, mitt romney down by 8 points among likely voters. i think that's very problematic for him. if he loses ohio getting to 270 electoral votes becomes not impossible but much more difficult. >> at the same time in the national poll, right track up to 40%, still not great, but it's the highest number we've seen in a number of years. this is better for the president. the enthusiasm gap still favors the president. >> yeah. the right track number i think is fascinating, andrea, because there's no obvious reason in the country in terms of economic indicators or anything else that people should be all of a sudden getting more optimistic about the direction of the country after they spent several years in the 30s in terms of people saying right direction but you're right, any kind of boost of optimism, and you've actually seen president obama moving in coordination with this, the question of is president obama handling the economy still not great but better. anything like that, helps the incumbent. remember, pre
nbc/marist, you put out data this morning, close in several states but still in ohio, mitt romney down by 8 points among likely voters. i think that's very problematic for him. if he loses ohio getting to 270 electoral votes becomes not impossible but much more difficult. >> at the same time in the national poll, right track up to 40%, still not great, but it's the highest number we've seen in a number of years. this is better for the president. the enthusiasm gap still favors the...
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governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney, taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> that actually was from the obama campaign. that was not stewart or colbert. still coming up, why you're awake? "morning joe" is moments away. [ male announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup
governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's...
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governor romney would be a return, the trickle down economies that failed the middle class and failed the country. there is obviously an important debate next week between our vice president and paul ryan. we have another debate in 11 days. we look forward to continuing to make the case. >> you used the words i think dishonest or not making an honest argument. you just did it again. do you believe that mitt romney is intentionally lying about his record or lying about his plans? >> well, i think i -- he is. you know, chuck, this is the cornerstone of his entire campaign and his economic plan. it really was a remarkable thing. it would be like in 2008 if we got on the stage and said i don't want to end the iraq war and i'm not for health care reform. you know, i don't want to have a green energy future. it is an amazing thing. and the reason he is trying to obfuscate here is because that tax cut plan is something the american people don't want to support. a huge tax cut for the wealthy paid for by the middle class or blowing a hole in our deficit. the wrong recipe for both david, he sa
governor romney would be a return, the trickle down economies that failed the middle class and failed the country. there is obviously an important debate next week between our vice president and paul ryan. we have another debate in 11 days. we look forward to continuing to make the case. >> you used the words i think dishonest or not making an honest argument. you just did it again. do you believe that mitt romney is intentionally lying about his record or lying about his plans? >>...
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to say, what points to pin him down on. romney won the debate. last night romney was more skilled. it doesn't change the policies. >> ezra, will the strategy work in the next two debates that heavy here? will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials. romney will change up his strategy. in general first debates are lopsided. the incumbent tends to recover a little bit in the second debate. whether we'll follow that trend line is anybody's guess. >> thank you, ezra. appreciate it. now to the third person on stage at the debates last night, you. yes, you didn't have a vocal response, but let me tell you, every moment people like you were chiming in. twitter reports today that it was the most tweeted event in u.s. politics generating over 10 million tweets in 90 minutes. perspective, that means ju
to say, what points to pin him down on. romney won the debate. last night romney was more skilled. it doesn't change the policies. >> ezra, will the strategy work in the next two debates that heavy here? will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials....
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you have mitt romney down ten points a month ago, after the debate, he's down, it's within the margin of error. this is supposed to be the state where the grand experiment of the auto bailout took place. and there's no way mitt romney could win that state. basically tied right now. and again, whether michigan ends up in his cone or not, this shows a huge thing taking place. we've got to assume it's taking place in florida, north carolina, virginia. i'd be shocked if mitt romney wasn't ahead in a lot of these swing states by the time these polls come out. >> and it forces the obama campaign to allocate resources to places like michigan, which they probably thought they had pretty faithfully in hand. but look, the poll numbers on women are really interesting. i have always believed that most of us in the news business very often underestimate the impact of the economy on women as a voting group. >> yeah. always talking about abortion and a lot of other social issues. because, you know what? it's the same thing too with a lot of gay voters that will come up to me and go, listen, i care a
you have mitt romney down ten points a month ago, after the debate, he's down, it's within the margin of error. this is supposed to be the state where the grand experiment of the auto bailout took place. and there's no way mitt romney could win that state. basically tied right now. and again, whether michigan ends up in his cone or not, this shows a huge thing taking place. we've got to assume it's taking place in florida, north carolina, virginia. i'd be shocked if mitt romney wasn't ahead in...
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while president obama and governor romney hunker down to prep for wednesday's big night, the candidates lower expectations by heaping praise on each other. we will entertain campaign bizarre world. >>> money boo boo, details on the latest cash dash and the new ad that puts lbj's daisy to shame. and mike check on jfk. we'll listen to newly released audiotapes that show kennedy's real views on the civil rights movement, cuban missile crisis and george romney. all of that when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, shari
while president obama and governor romney hunker down to prep for wednesday's big night, the candidates lower expectations by heaping praise on each other. we will entertain campaign bizarre world. >>> money boo boo, details on the latest cash dash and the new ad that puts lbj's daisy to shame. and mike check on jfk. we'll listen to newly released audiotapes that show kennedy's real views on the civil rights movement, cuban missile crisis and george romney. all of that when...
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does anybody in the romney campaign think they're only down by a point or two in ohio? no. they know ohio is falling into troubled territory. >> and they're pretty far behind in new hampshire. they're fighting a dogfight right now in north carolina. >> yeah. >> it's october 1st. that was a state that among the swing states, that was a state that was supposed to be the relatively easy gift for romney. there's a one or two-point race in north carolina on october 1st. they're facing an uphill slide across the board and they know it. >> by the way, you can't run 30-second ads in enough places to do this. if you're going to win, if you're going to turn things around, i'll say the quote that drives liberals crazy, a rising tide lifts all boats, this first debate on wednesday, it's got to shock the campaign back to life. because if romney does well, you're not going to be able to buy enough ads to do what a great performance by mitt romney would do on wednesday night. that would tighten it in ohio. it would tighten it in north carolina. probably go ahead in north carolina. it woul
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when i'm 55, 60 years old, i know my body's going to break down. i don't know mitt romney doesn't care about that. zbr and one of the stars of another video in that series is joan raymonday, president of ask me local 127. thanks for joining us. good morning. >> how are you? >> i'm well. that video has more than a million views on youtube so far. the message is pretty harsh. do you think it's fair? >> i think it, richard hayes is speaking from the heart. i think it's more than fair. we think that mitt romney is out of touch with regular working folk like richard hayes. and he is doesn't care about the 47%. he wants to gut public workers. but we're not the problem. to us, the problem is these big tax policies that gives breaks for the super rich. so we just wanted to go and show what a regular working class person picks up trash every day, very hard job. and is representative of the struggles that are going on today for many, many workers in america. and we want to defend the middle class. >> well, when mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, he s
when i'm 55, 60 years old, i know my body's going to break down. i don't know mitt romney doesn't care about that. zbr and one of the stars of another video in that series is joan raymonday, president of ask me local 127. thanks for joining us. good morning. >> how are you? >> i'm well. that video has more than a million views on youtube so far. the message is pretty harsh. do you think it's fair? >> i think it, richard hayes is speaking from the heart. i think it's more than...
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. >> you can't take the rates down 20% though on top of the bush tax cuts. >> romney said, i have reform principles. they are going to help grow the economy and create jobs but the idea he can raise taxes is fanciful. he'll never do it. >> if you are going to cut taxes for the wealthy as much as mitt romney wants to there is no way or he would have put forth the pro growth plan. he's ring on magic like harry potter will be his treasury secretary. >> he's not going to be able to cut taxes for rich people. he doesn't want to. the idea of pro growth taxes -- >> didn't he say 20% across the board? >> he did, but he also said if you take up the deductions, rich people won't get a big tax break. that's the truth. if you go through the principles and think about it, how do you design a pro growth tax policy? you have to take down the race and get rid of deductions. the numbers can add up. there is a long legislative process. >> will the president be prepared to talk about 47%, other vulnerabilities in the romney record from a democratic perspective? >> there are a lot of things that can be brou
. >> you can't take the rates down 20% though on top of the bush tax cuts. >> romney said, i have reform principles. they are going to help grow the economy and create jobs but the idea he can raise taxes is fanciful. he'll never do it. >> if you are going to cut taxes for the wealthy as much as mitt romney wants to there is no way or he would have put forth the pro growth plan. he's ring on magic like harry potter will be his treasury secretary. >> he's not going to be...
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. >> romney won hands down. >> he was very, very bad last night. >> there is no red america, there is no play america, there is only the america that can't believe how bad this guy did in the debate! >> he may have been listless on the debate stage wednesday night, but ever since then president obama's been hammering mitt romney for being a real slim shady. >> now my opponent you know has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got to gshs got an extreme make-over. but -- but the bottom line is, his underlying philosophy is the top down economics that we've seen before. >> chicago's message to american voters, don't be fooled. >> this was the first chance for the president to see how governor romney operates in these debates firsthand and you have to make some adjustments for the fact that he is kind of a serial evader, a sort of artful dodger. >> and while obama was reluctant to take the fight to romney in front of 67 million people two nights ago -- >> right now you can actually take a deduction for moving a plant overseas. i think most americans would say that doesn't make
. >> romney won hands down. >> he was very, very bad last night. >> there is no red america, there is no play america, there is only the america that can't believe how bad this guy did in the debate! >> he may have been listless on the debate stage wednesday night, but ever since then president obama's been hammering mitt romney for being a real slim shady. >> now my opponent you know has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got to gshs got an extreme...
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mitt romney most of the time his hands are down at his sides. he used gestured to get his point across and the use of emblems to bring home a he message. check please. if he had three points, he'd say one, two, three and lay it out for us. very active and aggressive and pushing his agenda forward. the president on the other hand when we saw that foot up, we call that a sprinter's pose. he's ready to go and move toward forward. it's off balance and out of sorts. we saw that from the president through his debate. >> chris, the looking down for obama. i mean, it's well established at this point that they used the split screen shot for presidential debates. you're always on the camera, and he has romney tearing into him cart clai articulately, and obama looks like a defeated man. >> we're talking about body language. itself it means nothing but the perception means nothing. in that position where his head is down, he's writing down notes. he did it a lot, looking down occasionally or to jot a note down is fine. as you pointed out, on a lot of occasi
mitt romney most of the time his hands are down at his sides. he used gestured to get his point across and the use of emblems to bring home a he message. check please. if he had three points, he'd say one, two, three and lay it out for us. very active and aggressive and pushing his agenda forward. the president on the other hand when we saw that foot up, we call that a sprinter's pose. he's ready to go and move toward forward. it's off balance and out of sorts. we saw that from the president...
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>> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each othe
>> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really...
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there will be ups and downs. we know the news media is anxious to write the romney recovery and comeback story. we understand that first of all, we are not going to win background states by 10, 12 points. this race is going to tighten. we have built the presidential campaign with the belief it will come down to a few votes in a few states. the race will tighten. we do have an edge right now, and it's important to understand that the election is happening right now. people started voting in iowa this week. vote in ohio next week. we like what we're seeing in those numbers. we think we've got the numbers to win an election. but it is going to be exceedingly, you know, tough at the end here. we expect it to tighten. and so our entire campaign is built under the premise, listen, we got 53% of the vote in 2008 under ideal circumstances. we have expected this to be closer than 2008, and we expect to see this race tighten a little bit. >> i want to talk about the foreign policy crisis in libya and the fact that this adm
there will be ups and downs. we know the news media is anxious to write the romney recovery and comeback story. we understand that first of all, we are not going to win background states by 10, 12 points. this race is going to tighten. we have built the presidential campaign with the belief it will come down to a few votes in a few states. the race will tighten. we do have an edge right now, and it's important to understand that the election is happening right now. people started voting in iowa...
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>> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in some ways i think this argument about 30% of the people being lazy, 47% of the people being lazy, goes against the idea of american exceptionalism. how can america be that exceptional if 50% of the country is lazy? we know that's not true. ame
>> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a...
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governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of t
governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney...
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with him is that sometimes he can be a little professorial, not to put down professors, but in a debate you have to think about the clock and think about the punchy line. is it a challenge for his current team to get him to speak in sound bites? >> well look, i used to joke with him it takes him 30 seconds to clear his throat sometimes. and look, i think -- look there's no doubt that, you know, you've got a very small window of time and brevity is certainly important and as i said earlier, andrea, the president hasn't done these formats in four years. mitt romney has done these pretty recently as part of 20 republican debates, but look, i have no doubt that the president will be well prepared and look, i don't actually think this debate is going to be decided by some snappy zinger or snappy sound bite. i think the american people, particularly the undecided voters that you, chris and mark were talking about, are really looking for these candidates to discuss what they want to do economically and domestically going forward for the next four years. i don't think, you know, snappy slogans
with him is that sometimes he can be a little professorial, not to put down professors, but in a debate you have to think about the clock and think about the punchy line. is it a challenge for his current team to get him to speak in sound bites? >> well look, i used to joke with him it takes him 30 seconds to clear his throat sometimes. and look, i think -- look there's no doubt that, you know, you've got a very small window of time and brevity is certainly important and as i said...
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these are the moments where i think the romney team has trouble, once you can actually drill down and say, but how does it work? show me the numbers. there is no answer. >> right. paul ryan thinks he can use this kind of policy wonk construction that he's been able to create to evade policy discussions. he told brit hume earlier i don't want to get too wonky on you when he asked him when is this budget going to balance. he did the same thing here, where he says look, you know, the math is just too complicated, just trust me on this. you can lower taxes by 20% and it's free. the problem is, nobody believes that. and you can't say well i'm really smart and know the numbers and there's cbo baselines and hope people change the channel. maybe what they should have said is i'm going to cut taxes by 20% and the economy will go through the roof. they didn't say that. they said i'm going to cut taxes by 20% and find other revenue. where will you find the other revenue? not saying. >> there is not enough time, eric, not really is a discussion -- that's not a good rejoineder. i'm no debate pro,
these are the moments where i think the romney team has trouble, once you can actually drill down and say, but how does it work? show me the numbers. there is no answer. >> right. paul ryan thinks he can use this kind of policy wonk construction that he's been able to create to evade policy discussions. he told brit hume earlier i don't want to get too wonky on you when he asked him when is this budget going to balance. he did the same thing here, where he says look, you know, the math is...
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right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obamaobviously, it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact, in order to, you know, occlude the accusation against you that, i mean, is that how you do it? >> go that, go after the tactic. again, it's easy to say this as a monday morning quarterback, but then you pivot to the substance of it and explain why what he just said is not true. you don't call him a liar or say that's not true. or do something that can end up, you know, going viral in some way that is not helpful to the campaign. just have to very clearly and cogently, and it was cogency that was lacking last night, rip through the other guy's point. >> mitt romney said he does not espouse positions he's been runnin
right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obamaobviously, it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact, in...
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mitt romney has a couple of events down in florida this weekend. but we understand he's also going to be practicing for that next debate in two weeks. rob portman, the republican senator from ohio, who has portrayed president obama in some of these rehearsals is down in florida with him. mitt romney, obviously, trying to keep that momentum going. >> what are you hearing within the white house about the spin on those -- on the 7.8% report that came out yesterday? and all these conspiracy theories that are surrounding it? >> reporter: the white house calls it utter nonsense, as do most people on both sides of the aisle. jack welch is almost famous or infamous by now. jack welch, the former ceo of general electric, tweeting out that, you know, the innuendo that the bureau of labor statistics had cooked the books. that was called utter nonsense by the deputy white house spokesman. others, including jared bernstein, who is an economist here until recently in the white house, said that welch should be ashamed of himself. you know, he's sort of out there
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just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among women voters in ohio and virginia. joining me now -- the sight of tonight's debate. it's great to have you here. showing president obama losing support with women voters. why do you think that might be the the case there? >> i think that women voters are looking at mitt romney's policies and they're realizing that they're not good for women. economic policies. the health care policies. family planning. in florida, of course, medicare's a big issue. women really want to look at candidates that are going to support issues that help women and families and that's what's going on. i think in florida and around the country. >> but do you think because the pol polling is is showing the president is losing support -- that he has been campaigning op are not good for women? >> oh, well, i think that, i'm sorry, i misunderstood. i thought you said president obama was winning in florida. i still think that as women begin to look at the pol
just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among women voters in ohio and virginia. joining me now -- the sight of tonight's debate. it's great to have you here. showing president obama losing support with women voters. why do you think that might be the the case there? >> i think that women voters are looking at mitt romney's policies and they're realizing that they're not good for women. economic policies. the health care policies....
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is christie off message when he predicted it comes down to wednesday for governor romney or simply saying what everyone else is thinking? that's our gut check. we'll take a look at debate strategy from romney's zinger preps to the president's team trying to keep his answers short and to the point. a professor who's actually an expert on political rhetoric, what he says you should be watching for during the debate. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that com
is christie off message when he predicted it comes down to wednesday for governor romney or simply saying what everyone else is thinking? that's our gut check. we'll take a look at debate strategy from romney's zinger preps to the president's team trying to keep his answers short and to the point. a professor who's actually an expert on political rhetoric, what he says you should be watching for during the debate. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing...
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that's down net two points from two weeks ago when the president was up by five. to what to you attribute the movement, chuck todd? >> well, first of all, the more important number has always been the president sitting at 49% or 50%. i would go through his job approval rating at 49%, his ballot test at 49%, those converge, and that's what matters and 49% puts you in the, quote, re-elect zone. what's affecting romney, this is something we've been watching all year long. there is an enthusiasm gap among core republican voters among core democratic groups. overall there's a ten-point advantage among those republicans who call themselves nines or tens when on a scale of one to ten asked how interested they are in this election. there's been a ten-point gap pretty consistent all year. that's why for instance on the registered voter number, the president has a seven-point lead and it shrinks more than in half down to three, because the republican vote is more enthusiastic and they get through our likely voter screens. there's a lot of hispanics not getting through our l
that's down net two points from two weeks ago when the president was up by five. to what to you attribute the movement, chuck todd? >> well, first of all, the more important number has always been the president sitting at 49% or 50%. i would go through his job approval rating at 49%, his ballot test at 49%, those converge, and that's what matters and 49% puts you in the, quote, re-elect zone. what's affecting romney, this is something we've been watching all year long. there is an...
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, he made a fool of himself but what did at least as much damage romney attacking perry on immigration and saying he was soft and weak and he was going to be tough on immigration, talked ability self-deportation and this language. that is damage he has never repaired. that seemed to form and solidify way back in the winter and spring, and i just think there's only a limit, there's only so much you can do with advertising unless you want to completely flip flop and change your policy -- >> the etch a sketch. >> romney just hasn't done that actually. one thing you've seen in the campaign he stuck by things more or less rather than perpetuate the idea -- >> i agree with you on 80% of that. the statement that he might continue the president's amnesty policy would sort of be like a $17,000 bucket. why are you saying that now? that's a reversal of everything -- you've been talking about illegals and magnets and hardline immigration and now all of a sudden talking about amnesty. >> it's weird as we've seen in our contexts that beginning once he hat the lock on the nomination make the pivot un
, he made a fool of himself but what did at least as much damage romney attacking perry on immigration and saying he was soft and weak and he was going to be tough on immigration, talked ability self-deportation and this language. that is damage he has never repaired. that seemed to form and solidify way back in the winter and spring, and i just think there's only a limit, there's only so much you can do with advertising unless you want to completely flip flop and change your policy -- >>...
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obama not making eye contact with romney a lot. looking down, surprised by romney's strength. and just monot engaged. >> so he was intense. he leaned in. it was like he had a lot of coffee before the debate. and he just was going after the president. my question for you, joe, is why can't he transfer this to the campaign trail? why wouldn't that work? it was great. >> i think that's what everybody said last night. i think he was very comfortable last night talking about facts, talking about information. i don't think -- >> he wasn't explaining a lot of stuff. >> going to chipotle just hanging out with the kids. i'm dead serious. >> i'm talking about speeches and rallies, and there are things people want to hear. i bet you the americans watching last night are the same people who go to rallies. they want to hear this stuff. they want to hear more. >> that's a challenge for mitt romney. >> that is a challenge. >> you heard that after everybody got over the shock of how great mitt romney did and how poorly the president did, the next thing was okay, now can he convert this? >> ri
obama not making eye contact with romney a lot. looking down, surprised by romney's strength. and just monot engaged. >> so he was intense. he leaned in. it was like he had a lot of coffee before the debate. and he just was going after the president. my question for you, joe, is why can't he transfer this to the campaign trail? why wouldn't that work? it was great. >> i think that's what everybody said last night. i think he was very comfortable last night talking about facts,...
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one of the things i found when i interviewed romney before the republican convention, we did it down in new orleans, he hasn't done this yet but he's very at ease talking about finance, talking about business. as a consultant, he was involved in many, many different industries. he can talk about technology, about retail, about cars. i think people want to see, what's your expertise? what is it about your background and knowledge base that would make you a better leader in terms of free jobs? he hasn't he can plained that very well. >> your interview in the september 3rd issue of "time ", you pressed him on tax loopholes, which ones he would close. you kind of went at him to really give specifics. >> right. >> and his response was, i know our democrat friends would love to have me specify one of or two so they could amass the special interest to fight that effort. can he get away with that tonight? i mean, he hinted at details recently but will he be forced to be more specific? >> i'm going to make a prediction here on your show. >> okay. >> which is that actually tonight he will reve
one of the things i found when i interviewed romney before the republican convention, we did it down in new orleans, he hasn't done this yet but he's very at ease talking about finance, talking about business. as a consultant, he was involved in many, many different industries. he can talk about technology, about retail, about cars. i think people want to see, what's your expertise? what is it about your background and knowledge base that would make you a better leader in terms of free jobs? he...
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mitt romney knows it's not wall street to worry about, it's sesame street. >> team romney says the ad is an example. obama campaign being small-minded. sesame street is asking that the re-election team take down the ad. that's new information. writing on its website, quote, sesame workshop is a nonpartisan nonprofit corporation. we don't endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. we have aapproved no ads. what does your gut tell you as funny as it might be, does it remind you of the bedate performance or bring up the issue of romney budget cuts. go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast your vote. i was trying to think of a joke with the count guy. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next. male an] you know that guy who sells those remote control helicopters at the mall. buy 'em or don't. whatever man. either way, he gets to fly helicopters all day. and he eats the liquid gold of velveeta shells & cheese. achieve your dreams. eat like that guy you know. achieve your dreams. very sore looking kinda blistery. it was like a red ra
mitt romney knows it's not wall street to worry about, it's sesame street. >> team romney says the ad is an example. obama campaign being small-minded. sesame street is asking that the re-election team take down the ad. that's new information. writing on its website, quote, sesame workshop is a nonpartisan nonprofit corporation. we don't endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. we have aapproved no ads. what does your gut tell you as funny as it might be, does it remind...
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if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicare into a voucher program. ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan
if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on...
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if that holds and if that uniformly filtering down to the battleground states, romney would still trail in iowa, ohio and alabama and obama would have a slight advantage ♪ electoral college. >> continuing our theme of what really matters, let's talk about the polls. obviously, polls don't vote. but do they sway the electorate? do they see one person as leading or gaining and some people decide to change their vote? is there some science on do polls actually shape the election itself? >> i don't think there's very much evidence that polls shift the election. if they did, i think we would see, you know, a clearer sign of that. what i think the public reacts to that is momentum, i think a lot of voters are like the people that aren't sure or are sure what they want for dinner but won't say it in a crowd necessarily. when someone says what they want, they jump out and say i want kfc tonight. >> i'm so glad you said that, because that sounds delicious. >> a lot of voters after the debates aren't sure whether they like bahama that much or whether i like him enough to say it. they're still v
if that holds and if that uniformly filtering down to the battleground states, romney would still trail in iowa, ohio and alabama and obama would have a slight advantage ♪ electoral college. >> continuing our theme of what really matters, let's talk about the polls. obviously, polls don't vote. but do they sway the electorate? do they see one person as leading or gaining and some people decide to change their vote? is there some science on do polls actually shape the election itself?...
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he just tried to talk romney down. and the numbers are a moment where he's going to have to do that and say why are these numbers bad and why will they be better if you re-elect me? >> gene, both camps have not really talked about the next four years. the romney people have been open about it up until recently when i think "the wall street journal" and a lot of conservatives have smoked them out, so they're getting a little more specific on deductions and a few other issues. but you could say the same thing about the president's team. they made the calculated decision to not talk about what they're going to do over the next four years. and that puts an incumbent in the position to do nothing but defend the last four years, doesn't it? >> well, it seems to me, look, what do people want to hear? i mean, really, what do people want to hear? why are they going to vote for one candidate or the other? it's what they're going to do over the next term. you know, we said on this program months and months ago that the winner of
he just tried to talk romney down. and the numbers are a moment where he's going to have to do that and say why are these numbers bad and why will they be better if you re-elect me? >> gene, both camps have not really talked about the next four years. the romney people have been open about it up until recently when i think "the wall street journal" and a lot of conservatives have smoked them out, so they're getting a little more specific on deductions and a few other issues. but...
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how many times did obama miss in the debate this week to pin romney down on the specific question of okay, you want to cut taxes across the board, you want to be deficit neutral and you have a broad promise to close loopholes and deductions. let's spell ought out what the deductions are. let's specify mitt romney which ones you say you'll go after and which ones you'll protect. biden is really -- i think you're right. ryan we see in this campaign, interviews he had something new. follow-up questions. >> when we come back, we're going to talk more about this. we know there's a problem of biden bromance. i want to know whether or not paul ryan is willing to go hard in for mitt romney. i'm going to gargle during the break. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. and
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that was a brutal beat down. what lessons do you think he learned as a man, as a politician that he's applied to this campaign? >> i think mitt romney is a sales man, a business man. a not an id logical figure. he's basically selling a process of fixing things. he walked out of the moment i think believing strongly that if he was going to win anything, he had to have a basic sales p pitch. a basic guide who delivered, not ideology, not a big idea. we've never found any big idea that romney had politically, but he's a fixer and when 2012 comes along and he looks at the economy, that's what i was made to do. >> i got to tell you, just all the many of the critics claim that the president of the united states is a remote personality. just from your verbal description of what's in the film, it can sort of get an appreciation for the remoteness. >> of course. for both of them. >> but for a president who, for a young boy who was always an outsider, was never in one camp or another. he was like you said, too black for in
that was a brutal beat down. what lessons do you think he learned as a man, as a politician that he's applied to this campaign? >> i think mitt romney is a sales man, a business man. a not an id logical figure. he's basically selling a process of fixing things. he walked out of the moment i think believing strongly that if he was going to win anything, he had to have a basic sales p pitch. a basic guide who delivered, not ideology, not a big idea. we've never found any big idea that...
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we'll see how skillful romney is. the advantage we have is, steve is here with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight ahead with the latest numbers. we've got a lot to get to. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i want you to know that, also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ intro
we'll see how skillful romney is. the advantage we have is, steve is here with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight...
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governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on sesame street. it makes perfect sense. virginia, we can't afford to double down on the same old top down economic policies that caused this mess in the first place. we cannot afford another round of tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research and technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan to grow our economy. it's sure not a plan to strengthen our middle class. we have been there, we have tried that. we're not going back, we are moving forward. we have got a different view about how we create jobs and prosperity in this country. this country doesn't just succeed when just a few are doing well at the top. it succeeds when the middle class gets bigger. our economy doesn't grow from the top down, it grows from the middle out. we don't believe that anybody is entitled to success in this country, but we do believe in opportu
governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on sesame street. it makes perfect sense. virginia, we can't afford to double down on the same old top down economic policies that caused this mess in the first place. we cannot afford another round of tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research and technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies...
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taking it down to 25%. but i also want to close those loopholes that are giving incentives for companies that are shopping jobs overseas, i want to provide tax breaks for companies that are investing here in the united states. on energy, governor romney and i, we both agree that we've got to boost american energy production. and oil and natural gas production are higher than they've been in years. but i also believe that we've got to look at the energy sources of the future, like wind and solar and biofuels, and make those investments. so all of this is possible. now, in order for us to do it, we do have to close our deficit, and one of the things i'm sure we'll be discussing tonight is how do we deal with our tax code? and how do we make sure we are reducing spending in a responsible way, but also, how do we have enough revenue to make those investments? and this is where there's a difference, because governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bus
taking it down to 25%. but i also want to close those loopholes that are giving incentives for companies that are shopping jobs overseas, i want to provide tax breaks for companies that are investing here in the united states. on energy, governor romney and i, we both agree that we've got to boost american energy production. and oil and natural gas production are higher than they've been in years. but i also believe that we've got to look at the energy sources of the future, like wind and solar...
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governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again, but he's bringing the hammer down on sesame street. >> back too "hardball." that was president obama, of course, in los angeles just yesterday taunting mitt romney for saying he'll starve big bird if elected president. and check out this cartoon from "the atlanta journal constitution's" mike luckovich, quote, president mitt romney and his team reviewing live video on raid of big bird's compound. as for operation save big bird, there's this. hillary clinton takes the lead. quote, confirmed, i got the bird. we will move him to a safe house in the morning. that's hillary clinton. >>> now, a few words from a member of the house science committee. georgia republican paul broun, a medical doctor, gave a sermon at a baptist church last month and addressed the issue of evolution. >> i've come to understand that all that stuff i was taught about evolution, embryology, big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. and it's lies to try to keep me and the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a sav
governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again, but he's bringing the hammer down on sesame street. >> back too "hardball." that was president obama, of course, in los angeles just yesterday taunting mitt romney for saying he'll starve big bird if elected president. and check out this cartoon from "the atlanta journal constitution's" mike luckovich, quote, president mitt romney and his team reviewing live video on raid of big bird's compound. as for operation...
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the unemployment rate has gone down below 8% which is in some ways a manageable number because mitt romney has been saying on the stump that the president said it was going below 8% and it hasn't so he has to take that out of his stump. in response to this, conservatives, not just fringe figures in the communist red state starting spinning this tale of a conspiracy to cook the books in the bureau of labor statistics. jack welch tweeted, former cege, who kno -- ceo of ge, he says this is unbelievable. they're messing with the numbers. steve forbes, former gop presidential candidate, berkeley man himself, retweeted it and said, jack is right. and then there was this entire universe. i joked about it. you're out of your mind if you don't think these numbers were cooked. yesterday jack welch went on my colleague "chris matthews show" and this is what transpired. >> you put out the word here, unbelievable jobs numbers, fair enough. these chicago guys will do anything so they change the numbers. what evidence do you have that they got to the bos? the chicago guys got to the bureau of labor stati
the unemployment rate has gone down below 8% which is in some ways a manageable number because mitt romney has been saying on the stump that the president said it was going below 8% and it hasn't so he has to take that out of his stump. in response to this, conservatives, not just fringe figures in the communist red state starting spinning this tale of a conspiracy to cook the books in the bureau of labor statistics. jack welch tweeted, former cege, who kno -- ceo of ge, he says this is...
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you want me to narrow my answers down. i'm really way above this, fellows. >> two things would be game changers tonight if barack obama says you are likable enough, mitt. or if mitt romney says i will bet you 10,000. it is interesting. i somewhat disagree with mark. i looked at debates from 1960 on. what is remarkable is how little bit has changed. in 2004 everybody is taking on all three of those. >> i got it right here. the only debate where there was movement beyond two or three points from the start to the end was 1976. jerry ford moved ten points. it doesn't have the effect that people think it has. i think there are five things that make a difference. conventions matter a lot, where you are going in, the kind of campaign you run and the media. >> i disagree with it. do you think debates don't have an impact or do you think tonight could if mitt romney comes out? >> i think that's really when the american people see the two candidates and start to make their minds up. >> first of all, i think there is a consensus that
you want me to narrow my answers down. i'm really way above this, fellows. >> two things would be game changers tonight if barack obama says you are likable enough, mitt. or if mitt romney says i will bet you 10,000. it is interesting. i somewhat disagree with mark. i looked at debates from 1960 on. what is remarkable is how little bit has changed. in 2004 everybody is taking on all three of those. >> i got it right here. the only debate where there was movement beyond two or three...
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like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the impressions of the mitt romney we met earlier and reveal a coherent person, one voters can imagine as a leader. is this debate more romney against himself? critics paint him displaying this flaccid leadership. >> he has to present himself as a president who would represent all americans. he said that several times. he's practicing that debate line. here again, even when he engages with that comment, it reminds people of that 47% remark. you see him over the last couple of days. i think it was today there is an interview in the "denver post" whe
like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the...
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with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height. >> when avis boy my mom and dad used to read to me from a book called "men to match my mountains." perhaps we should change the title to "men and women to match my mountains" because right here men and women have matched the mountains of colorado. >> he's really working on the zingers. we see what you did there, mitt, adding women into the mix. nice. anything to do with the president's 18-point lead with women putting him four points above romney nationwide? no, i'm sure not. by the way, the same poll shows voters expect 54% to 28% that the president will win the dae bates. the president doe
with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height....
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that's why i think people are saying relax, calm down, take it easy. you're in the going to do it all at once if you do it you're going to build momentum in this debate and add to it in subsequent stages of the campaign. >> we know at least in "the new york times" reports governor romney has been told or memorizing these zingers quickly, do -- does that kind of approach work or not? >> i think it doesn't work very well. i think both the memorization and the zinger is a misleading process. >> wayne phils, thank you for your analysis. we appreciate it. thanks, professor. >>> and tonight another big debate could shift the political balance in washington, this massachusetts, where elizabeth warren will face senator scott brown in their second televised debate. new "boston globe" poll taken since the last debate has warren now leading scott brown by five points. "boston globe" politics reporter noah joins me now. great pleasure having you on. let's talk about it. a shift for your paper and what we saw in the prior -- may the last poll was taken. >> >> that'
that's why i think people are saying relax, calm down, take it easy. you're in the going to do it all at once if you do it you're going to build momentum in this debate and add to it in subsequent stages of the campaign. >> we know at least in "the new york times" reports governor romney has been told or memorizing these zingers quickly, do -- does that kind of approach work or not? >> i think it doesn't work very well. i think both the memorization and the zinger is a...
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most importantly, it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. ron? >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will add to the deficit. there isn't a single credible economist that thinks these numbers add up, and romney thus far has gotten away with not having to justify the numbers that don't add up. >> everybody wants something free. he's offering them that. cotton candy for the world. thank you. ron reagan and michelle goldberg. >> up next, the rogue's gallery of republicans who don't believe science. wait until you catch this science committee in the house and its membership. this is "hardball," the place for politics. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which n
most importantly, it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. ron? >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will add to the deficit. there isn't a single credible economist that thinks these numbers add up, and romney thus far has gotten away with not having to justify the numbers that...
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if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations, he's going to lose the general election and that's going to leave open 26 -- oh. the jersey is strong in this one. >> in political language the governor there was sandbagging. actually he was sandbagging. he should have been low balling, that's playing up the skills of the other guy claiming you have to chance. >>> we have talked about how some republicans seem to be running against a president who doesn't actually exist suggesting that president obama is some kind of foreigner with hidden plans to outlaw guns and bring european-style socialism to the u.s. of a. well, back in 2008 focus on the family, a hard right christian group, sent a memo to supporters about what 2012 would look like if obama was elected. well, first a prediction about the boy scouts of america. here they are. the boy scouts no longer exist as an organization. they chose to disband rather than be forced to obey the supreme court decision that they would have to hire homosexual scoutmosters. no, actually, the boy scouts are still going stlong. next, the prediction
if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations, he's going to lose the general election and that's going to leave open 26 -- oh. the jersey is strong in this one. >> in political language the governor there was sandbagging. actually he was sandbagging. he should have been low balling, that's playing up the skills of the other guy claiming you have to chance. >>> we have talked about how some republicans seem to be running against a president who doesn't actually exist...
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you have to sign down here no taxes. >> it doesn't matter what you sign -- >> it doesn't. >> at this stage of the game it doesn't matter. i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the presidency. you know that old saying if you stand for nothing you won't stand for anything? well, romney doesn't stand for anything. he doesn't really have any values or principles that he really believes in except he really wants to be president. that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that
you have to sign down here no taxes. >> it doesn't matter what you sign -- >> it doesn't. >> at this stage of the game it doesn't matter. i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely...